Remember When Code Was Playful?
Before it became 'engineering'—when you just made things to see if they'd work.
Ways We Work
Three modes. Pick whatever makes sense.
Build Your MVP
You have an idea and some runway. We'll help you build it. We've made a lot of these—some succeeded, most taught us something.
Partner on It
If the problem interests us, we might build it with you. We've done this 6 times. 3 are still running. That's probably good odds.
Figure Something Out
Got a technical problem? We're curious about hard things. No promises, but we'll probably try.
We Ship
Built a bunch of MVPs over the years. Some became companies. Some didn't. Either way, they worked—people used them. We're fast because we've made a lot of mistakes.
Have an Idea?We Experiment
Between projects we build weird things. AI without tensors. Web protocols over CLI. JSON-driven frameworks. Most are curiosities. Some become useful. We share what we learn.
See ExperimentsWe're Not Corporate
Two people. No employees. We code, design, ship. That's it. Been doing this since the 80s. Still learning.
Talk to UsThings We've Made
Portfolio

JasonJS
Web framework. JSON-driven. We got tired of rebuilding the same stack, so we made a reusable one. Now powers ~100 apps. Open source.
Github
CM64.io
IDE for building with JasonJS. Has AI agents that write code. We use it for client work. Makes us about 5x faster. Still beta.
Try It
LivingLLMs
Research project. Trying to build language models using physical systems instead of neural nets. Probably won't work. Interesting anyway.
Paper
LLMule
P2P compute network. Your idle GPU helps train AI models, you get tokens. Decentralized infrastructure experiment.
Join
WebCLI
Web protocol over command line. Because sometimes curl is better than Chrome. Web4 experiment. Weird but kind of useful.
Docs
Built during 2020 lockdown. Social marketplace over WhatsApp. Connected 15k shops. Scrappy, chaotic. Worked.
Story
AI meeting notes. Records, transcribes, summarizes. We built it because we hate taking notes. Around 2k teams using it now.
Visit
Healthcare admin for doctors. Manages clinics, schedules, billing. About 50 clinics using it in Latin America.
Visit
Maybe Yours
If you're building something interesting, we might help. Or not. Depends if it makes us curious.
Talk
Context
Some background, if you care.
Been Around
Started with a Commodore 64 in 1985. That's where the name comes from. Still learning how things work.
Just Two People
Me and a business partner. We code, design, talk to clients. No hierarchy. No process. Just build.
Share Everything
Most of our tools are open source. If we learn something useful, we publish it. Feels right.
Get Bored
Can't do the same thing twice. That's why we make tools and frameworks—so we can try new things faster.
Say No
If a project doesn't interest us, we pass. Have to stay curious or what's the point.
Not Corporate
No sales team, no meetings about meetings. If you want to work together, we just... talk and see if it makes sense.
Have Something?
If you're building something interesting, let's talk. Maybe we can help.